So Just Who Is Harrison J. Bounel?
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Just Another Day In The Many Lies
Noticed the title did ya? Just who is Harrison? One will probably never know unless Barry Obama, Barry Soretoro, Barak Soretoro, Barry Dunham, Barack Dunham or one of his various other alias in his life will step forward and answer that 64K dollar question.
Now understand that Harrison J. Bounel is also one of those alias that he used that is actually tied to those insidious "lets keep it secret" records that no one in this nation is supposed to question. I'm a question guy myself. The only dumb question is the one you don't ask is what I've been taught. The gist of this article is that the name, fictitious of course, has become the object of a spoof on Facebook. You hadn't heard? Oh my...
Along comes a debt collector you see. In the process of doing his pesky duties, he happens across a Harrison J. Bounel who just happens to be using the same address and social security number of who? You guessed it you sly foxes! Barak Hussein Obama. Hot on the trail of the debt collector came a woman named Peggy Knutson, who happens to be a political satirist, who discovered this tidbit of information so she set out to spoof it and she has been more than successful. Her weapon of choice was Facebook. I love political satire, don't you? Especially when it strikes at the truth. I've been accused of it myself and usually feel honored by the accusation.
She has the usual satirical flourishes on Harrison's page:
His mother was Ann Dunham and his father is WHO?
Georgy Porgey Soros is his employer and Bounel's line of endeavor is "puppet." A real hoot is his job description. It goes like this, "The Muslim Brotherhood (the Bros for short) and I are cutting that uppity Israel down to size – 1967 size."
FOOTNOTE: Now by now I know our liberal trolls are frothing at the chops screaming, "You lie! You lie!" But feel free to troll on over to FB and take a gander. Update April 2012: FB has now pulled the profile of Harrison which had become wildly popular
Bounel's inspirations in life is a list of who's who is Marxist history: Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers and Mao Zedong.
Under the games category his favorites are charades and politics. I have to agree with the charades but he really knows very little about politics. He's the one who said, "It isn't going to be business as usual in Washington DC under my administration." Not realizing that he is a lightweight climbing into the ring with the heavy weight career pickpockets we call politicians.
Harry's favorite quotes sound just exactly like Old Smirksalot: "'We are the Ones we have been waiting for.' – Me; 'I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.' – Me; 'I won.' – Me, again."
In light of Weinergate, Harrison has gone so far as to post a photo of his "wiener" - Joe Biden and goes on to boast that he has played 71 rounds of golf in just a short 29 months. Now there's an accomplishment! I wondered if he played this weekend?
"Survivor" became a subject for all you reality show fans. He boasts that Hillary and Leon cut short his golf outing the day Navy Seal Team 6 offed Osama. How did they accomplish that? They told him that someone was going to be voted off the island that day!
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So who is Harrison J. Bounel really? He's really not Peggy. She's just having fun with the facts. It seems that Al, the debt collector, was doing some research in Chicago, the land of thugs, when he noticed the fact that the researchee's neighbor was named Michelle Obama. Now imagine that it only took probably less than a minute to call up the rest of the story. Look again at the picture above.
The name's are different but the address - 5406 S. Greenwood Avenue - are an exact match. It also showed Al that the names were different but the social security numbers were exactly the same, not a digit off. Al couldn't understand how the name Bounel was there and there was no other social security match to be found for Harrison J. Bounel.
Now debt collectors are a persistent lot. They know every trick in the book to find you. Al tried everything, and I mean everything. Harrison J. Bounel doesn't seem to exist. The only place he shows up is using Barak Hussein Obama's social security number and the address 5406 S. Greenwood Avenue. How utterly strange. While one could speculate that Harrison is a renter, a house sitter, or maybe one of Obama's lost lost relatives none of that fits. Why? Because he has the exact same social security number as the present President of the United States. It seems to be a false name, AKA an alias.
So who is Al? He's a debt collector, a libertarian and he actually voted for Obama having drunk the "hope and change" koolaid that was the fad at the time. Also he has been instrumental in uncovering the facts about the ownership of the house located at 5406 S. Greenwood. That's a twisted tail because the ownership documents are all tied to three of Smirky's supporters with ties to who else? Tony Rezko, the infamous convicted poltical hack for Obama.
Rezko evidently found the house for the happy Obama couple when he lived right across the street. If memory serves me correctly, and it usually does, there was a big stink in the US Senate about the ethics involved in the transaction that was quickly glossed over by the Lame Stream Media. Remember that Obama could do no wrong back then and according to them,he still wears his halo today.
You Want Me To Tell The Truth?
In the words of "Harrison J. Bounel, "Rezko not only helped me and Michelle buy that sweet house, but put the Cook County property ID in my Harrison J. Bounel alias. Tony knows the skeletons in my attic and all their identities (Soetoro, Bounel, Soebarko, Obama)."
I'm not a birther folks. I don't really care about his forged birth certificate. This is just another piece of the Obama jig saw puzzle. What I want to see are his college records so that this can all finally be tied all together. This is a Chicago community organizer that is the subject here and it's time to stop playing pretend.
Don't expect to hear a peep out of the Lame Stream Media about this. They're too busy reading Sarah Palin's e-mails.
Something smells like rotten fish to me here. Or maybe that's a fraud I smell.
As Always,
The Frog Prince
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Ground Squirrel - What isn't funny, though your comment is, is that the money being used to play the game belongs to the US tax payers. I had a vision of the GEICO commercial when I read your comment.
True or not reading this hub leads to the very funny picture at the end.
I know it's not really funny guys, but if I didn't laugh I would have to cry myself to sleep at night. Besides, laughter is a force multiplier in any battle.
uncorrecteddivision - My friend, there is no way I can make stuff like this up. Bounel is on FB and Al is real and the story needs looking into a bit more.
GS - Sweet dreams pal!
Bravo!
Too bad the world doesn't care what a scam, lier, fraud, cheat, impostor, coward, muslim we have as our...can you believe it!!!!!!!!!
president.
Tim W
tlmntim9
i had to step away before i wrote a comment on this particular hub. i cannot believe the disrespect some of your audience is paying to the office of the president.
talk about drinking the kool-aid... a lot of these folks did, but not the one you are referring too.
americans cannot be as dumb as we are making ourselves out to be. barack obama is not using an alias. he is the president. with the fbi, cia and so many other bureaus at his disposal, why would he? this is a case of which came first, the chicken or the egg. i would think that mr. al is using obama's information to get out of a debt.
you are referring to obama as a caveman, muslim, coward, imposter....where are you getting these references from and why? the laws of our country are made by congress-what a wonderful job they have done. they are interpreted by the supreme court-we should hold them accountable also and the president doesnt hold either of these jobs.
big business and your former president George W Bush has sunk us into a hole so deep we can never see the light of day. if you have anyone to be angry with-jab your steely knifes in his back. how can the bar for bush be set so low and the bar for obama be so far out of reach? i believe for many americans no matter what president obama achieves or does they will not be satisfied, ever. why is that? he killed the man behind the murder of thousands of americans and we cant even say thank you. we insult the man.
this is why the world sees us for what a lot of us are, hypocrites and very bad people.
thank you for a wonderful post that got the blood stirring. - by the way put together really well and great hub.
It just keeps getting uglier every day. Lies, deceptions, hidden facts, etc. It seems clear to me that Obama truly wants to hurt the USA. I guess my question is why? It seems he's had at least a middle class existence for most of his life, and the people voted him into the legislature and the presidency. Further, he's made millions on book royalties. It doesn't seem to me that he has alot to complain about. Where does his motive of hatred for the US devolve from?
A Navy SEAL team member killed Bin Laden. The hole we are in now is all Barry's. There hasn't been an recession last this long since the Great Depression when a Democrat devotee of Keynsian economics and the arrogance to believe he knows better than everyone how to run an economy despite never even running a lowly lemonade stand was forcing his silliness on the economy, just like today. I wonder if those who get all knotted over disrespect for Barry were so balanced and generous with their restraint when GWB was POTUS.
As we were reminded by Hillary we all have the right to be critical of the President regardless of how brutal to the ears our voice tends to be.
smcopywrite - The "audience" as you term them isn't showing any "disrespect" for the office of the President. Obama is disrespecting that office, not the citizens of this nation.
Here's what I learned in the Army over decades. See it this makes any sense to you. You cannot command respect, you have to earn it. A position, any position, is just that. You honor, integrity and morals are on display for anyone and everyone to see. The position should always be respected, but there is a person occupying that position. Respect must be earned. It isn't just granted by virtue of your position. Please don't confuse the two.
The Frog
frog
you certainly cannot believe that coming from the army. there are people and persons that are in the army that you have to respect because of their rank or the position they hold whether you respect the person or not.
obama has earned respect. are people simply envious of the man? what has he done personally to make your life harder?what decision has he made to make your life worse? what is it specifically that you dislike about the person. obviously you are attacking his character which is as personal as you can get so this is a personal matter, right?
Bush,as I recall, went to congress before going to war.While Bush was too liberal(compassionate)he did not spend like Obama. He did not take over private companies.To the best of my knowledge he never lied to the people.He respected the country and the office of President. He has refrained from criticizing other presidents.He also did not try to force his own views on the rest of us.
bush didnt do anything as president because he was too stupid. every company he ever had failed before he became president. i believe at last count it was 10. he didnt go to congress to declare war. remember, he joined with other countries to simply go in and find the weapons of mass destruction that didnt exist-great intelligence there.
bush cannot criticize other presidents because he doesnt know how. did you ever listen to any of his speeches and addresses to the nation? it was like a sixth grader talking in front of his classmates.
they cannot even finish his library because they dont have anything to put in it. bush doesnt have any views. never did. maybe cheney does since he pretty much ran everything anyway. something other than making billions from the war that has been created.
daddy bush put bin laden in the position he was in and the american people dont seem to find it "odd" that his son had such a difficult time finding the man.
obama doesnt want to take over private companies. he wants private companies to stop making their own policy and laws. you cannot police yourself which is what they have been doing for years which has our economy in the state it is.
the economy is not growing because of these private companies. creating millions of new jobs is what they are stating, but leaving out the fact that they are sending these jobs overseas.
not paying taxes when they should and each and every year making more money than the last. skimping on benefits and money for their employees without union representation to watch out for employees best interests. they should hang there heads in shame and anyone that defends them should also. i suppose you thank the big banks and oil companies are blameless too?
i hear a lot of griping, but i would like to hear some solutions. none have been given.
one more thing- his birth certificate is as real as yours and why do you care? what does his birth certificate have to do with you personally? how is this affecting your life in america?
smcopywrite,
Frog is really right. In substance, the most you can respect is a person, based on their character and skills. If an office is above your own, you have to obey the office, but you can only respect or disrespect the person filling it.
For example, I respect Jack Welch as a great CEO. I disrespect Bernie Ebbers (former CEO of MCI) as a criminal stock manipulator who was sentenced to 25 years for accounting fraud and related charges. Both held exactly the same office, CEO. In either company, as an employee I would have to obey them. But I get to choose who I respect.
Obama is a transnational socialist who is consciously trying to tear our constitutional republic to shreds. He routinely violates the law by submitting bills to Congress that are in conflict with the Constitution and federal code, signing illegal executive orders, issuing signing statements, breaching affirmative duty (refusing to enforce laws he doesn't like), etc. Why should anyone but a left wing radical respect this man? How can anyone respect a man who has put all his pre-Chicago career bona fides under seal? What would a man, truly worthy of respect, be hiding?
Stu
Frog,
That pic at the top is fantastic. If that thing is on Google Images, I bet over time it will go viral (i.e., alot of people will use it as entry points for blogs just like you did).
Stu
obama is not a socialist and this is definitely not his agenda in the office of president. he doesnt violate the laws or not enforce laws because as president (the executive branch) he doesnt have the power to do so. many of the bills that congress is submitting for passage are padded with fat cat wasteful spending, similar to the alaska bridge to no where. capitalism is not defined as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. because obama would like us to invest in us, america, dont label that socialism.
we do need to invest in education, infrastructure and social programs that help those that are less fortunate. the percentage of the overall budget spent on programs for the less fortunate to provide food, housing and education is less than 5%.
why would he keep republicans or GWs people in office around him? every president brings in people they know and trust to advise him. these people are qualified so why berate them for doing a good job. he did keep GWs secretary of defense and treasury secretary.are they bona-fides also?
lots of people in the private sector get hired because of people they know inside of a company.
if obama is breaking any laws hire another ken starr so we can waste millions more of valuable tax dollars-again.
The one good thing about Obama is that if his spare time is spent on the golf course, at least he isn't doing any harm to the country. At least he's not playing with his Weiner as is apparently what is going on with one of his pals.
@ smcopywrite: The problem with your view is that you think government should be the arbiter of investment. I say we do just fine on our own. Let the free market decide, that means people. IF government weren't so deeply entrenched in the minutiae of our daily lives, the background stress of daily living would be greatly reduced and you would have a lasting peace. "Invest" more in education? I say "we" have invested enough, now I'd like to see a return on that investment but I know the level of pie in the sky over thinking of educational modalities has skewed the product away from the demands of the market. The incompetence of the workforce disturbs me a great deal. The dependence on technology to pad us against reality will be our undoing. I for one, have no love of the idiots who choose to live inside the castle. Yes, O-man exhibits what in my mind is a caveman mentality. His single minded obsession with the power of his words belies the actuality of his ineffectiveness as the leader of the greatest nation in history. He wants me to do this and do that, by the force of the police power of government if necessary. A president I can respect would want me to do what I desire in the furtherance of the goals of my community. A lemming, I am not. See you at the zoo.
smcopywrite,
"obama is not a socialist" - A socialist, by definition, is someone who believes in strict top-down dictatorship, and believes that private groups, such as businesses, must comport their activities to the furtherment of national goals. Obama has stated publicly that he will not enforce laws he does not like, such as DOMA. Obama is not enforcing our immigration laws, and is in fact suing states that are enforcing them via new state laws. During his campaign, he rightly criticized the Patriot Act as a violation of the Bill of Rights. Instead of trying to get it repealed, he has extended it. Obama uses "Czars" to do end runs around Congress, cheating Congress of its constitionally guaranteed power to promulgate legislation via illegal executive branch usurpation of Congressional authority. Obama has pressured courts to drop valid deportation cases, even though he has no standing in these matters. Obama has illegally taken over control of the health insurance industry via the federal HC Act (violation of enumerated powers, Senate cloture rules, and House authority over funding decisions) to further his own ideological goals. I could go on forever, but if you can't see that Obama is a fiat dictator, I can't explain it to you.
"he doesnt violate the laws" - Obama violates so many laws I could write a book about it. As examples take the HC Act (its illegality was explained above), the Governor's Conference Executive Order (permits use of the military on US soil, in violation of posse comitatus), The Disarming American Citizens Bill (lets the AG deny firearm sales arbitrarily, in violation of the Second, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments), the Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Bill of 2011 (violates the Appointments Clause of the Constitution), the Disclose Bill (violates the First Amendment), reauthorization of the Fairness Doctrine (violates the First Amendment), our continued military involvement in Lybia (violates the War Powers Act), failure to enforce our immigation laws (breach of affirmative duty), failure to enforce DOMA (breach of affirmative duty), National Defense Authorization Bill (permits the president to declare war without Senate approval and use the US military on US soil, in violation of the War Powers Act and posse comitatus), UN Small Arms Treaty (violates the Second Amendment), NATO World Police Initiative (violates posse comitatus), National Firearm Registration Bill (violates the Second Amendment), the Net Neutrality Act (violates the Tenth Amendment), the Internet Kill Switch Bill (violates the Tenth Amendment), ganting Interpol an exemption from the FOIA (violates the Sixth Amendment), etc.
"alaska bridge to no where" - This was not Governor Palin's fault. Originally, Palin asked Congress for a $400 million appropriation to build this bridge. After further study, the state of Alaska decided it was not a good investment. Palin contacted the House and requested that the appropriation be cancelled. The House granted it anyway, and sent Alaska the check. Palin used the money for needed roadway repairs elsewhere in the state. I have no idea why the House didn't cancel the appropriation after Palin asked them to. Maybe it was a ploy to set her up for receiving the money and not building the bridge (remember that the House was controlled by the Democrats during the 111th Congress).
"obama would like us to invest in us" - It is not the proper function of the federal government to "invest in us." The federal government actually has extremely limited powers per the Constitution. Almost all of what the federal government (the executive branch in particular) does is patently illegal. The Founders intended the vast bulk of powers to be in the hands of the states and the people. Accordingly, they created a Constitution that limits federal authority to "enumerated powers," meaning powers specified within the Constitution. Some powers the federal government does legally have are national defense, immigration policy, treaties, coinage of money, and taxation. But the vast "operational bureacracy" of the federal executive branch are mainly powers stolen from the states and the people. Show me where in the Constitution the federal government has any power to regulate issues related to the environment, communications, agriculture, education, commerce (other than antitrust matters), energy, etc. If you truly limited the federal government to enumerated powers, as the Tenth Amendment requires, you could defund almost all of Washington. Investment is a function of the private sector and the states, not the federal government (because the Constitution does not deny such authority to them). That's the law per the Constitution: the federal government is subject to "negative powers" (it can only do what the Constition says it can do), but the states and the people are subject to "positive powers" (they can do anything not denied by the Constitution). Read the Tenth Amendment carefully: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Before commenting back, please Google my points, to determine whether I have my facts straight. Then rebut/agree on each point separately.
Stu
These Hub Facts really Scare Me Froggy...You never know who's reading and watching. I did not vote for this man, because I felt, Who is he? What was his Experience? If indeed he was a Harvard Law Professor...that still didn't (in my book) make him a good Candidate for the Presidency...A Senator who voted Present? And a Press who looks the other way...A very unhealthy combination for the American Public, we deserve Better.
smcopywrite - I suggest you now look closely into the background of Obama. Evidently you haven't. Look at his upbringing, the people who were his parents and their marxist history. All that is right here on the internet. It was all right here for the reading as he campaigned and the liberal media ignored it. I think you know that you are the product of your upbringing and environment.
Then look into his college years, what one can see because much of it is hidden and masked. Look at the people he associated with any why. Do some research and keep reading.
Then look at his association with Bill Ayers. It is purported that Ayers wrote one of Obama's books. As you are reading then read his (Obama's) books and read them closely paying attention to what is said in them.
I mentioned, actually Harrison did on FB, four people who have "inspired" Obama: Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers and Mao Zedong. Read the history behind each of these people. Then start connecting the dots.
You see smcopywrite I did an enormous amount of research 'BEFORE' the last election campaign, not afterward. If Obama isn't a socialist then he is the closest thing to being one without being one. He's a far left progressive who ran as a centrist which was an outright lie. A lie among many. I suspect most of his entire life has been a lie. We'll find out over time, but in the interim, read what is available.
b. malin - Obama wasn't a law professor. He taught Constitutional law part time at the University of Chicago. Another myth Obama has perpetuated.
The Frog
Your hub are always enlightening, and comments from your followers are interesting. I don't know much about FB and the different sections, so this is the tutorial I need to get started -- or not. What is the line -- fact is stanger than fiction?
Obama has earned nothing but the wrath of a nation, it's people, it's military establishment and is undoubtedly the stupidest, most ineffective, most dishonest and disloyal human to ever hold such a high position, well since 1776 anyway.
smcopywrite your stupidity is only over shadowed by your blind ignorance!
Obama had been handed everything since birth by the grace of his skin color and the only things he has achieved by himself were by graft, corruption, greed and lying.
get a life!
Sally - FB is another way I use to reach out to people, nothing more and nothing less. I am friends with Harrison now. He/she is real and understands Obama just like I do.
Frog,
You and Harrison must be in some special plane. Although I can point out fault after fault of Obama, I would be lying if I said I "understood" him. Although he is president, and everything he does is front page news, he's like a total enigma. Apart from a desire to destroy us, I still can't get a bead on what drives him. I can see the manifest evil, but the underlying drivers elude me to this day.
Stu
Stu - In my life so far I have encountered numerous con men, frauds and snake oil salesmen. I understand them and know them when I see them.
thank you for feedback but after reading all of your comments i can only say that i am scared for all of you. i cannot believe the hate that is oozing from this page for a man that you don't even know. what you think you know is more dangerous that what you probably do.
everything you read is not the truth or fact, as writers you should know that.
Palin cashed a $400 million dollar check that she supposedly shouldn't have had? let business work itself out? if they could why are they asking the federal government to bail them out?
you still haven't addressed any of my questions. what are your answers for all of the ill will that has befallen our country? its Obama's fault that banks are foreclosing on houses? if Obama is "breaking the law" hire an independent counsel to bring him to justice.
what has Obama done that has negatively impacted your life personally? you both sound like sound bytes of hate mongers and fox news.
you don't know personally know obama and yet instead of attacking his policies as president you attack his character. what you know is the sludge and dirt that newsmen and hate filled republicans dig up. they never discuss all of the great things that have been accomplished since he has been in office.
if i didn't see your nasty small minded comments here in writing, i don't wouldn't believe such narrow minded people still actually existed since we stopped turning in communists in the 50s.
unless you met his parents, dont pretend to know who and what they were. your parents may have been racists during their time, are you? next you will be attacking his children for Obama being their father.
i understand that america is a country for freedom of speech, but we also have laws that protect people from slander.
form your own opinions and stay away from Gingrich and people like him. dont simply spew out the hatred that others have, dont allow something terrible to become contagious.
with people in america with thoughts such as yours our future is not looking very bright.the one thing i regret is that people so small minded have the right to vote to shape our future.
its been fun guys and thanks for the conversation, but i am afraid that you are getting way to emotional for me(thanks for the feedback timntim9). i will continue to read your tirades stu and appreciate the opportunity to visit.
smcopywrite - Don't cofuse hate with reality. I hate no one but I find the present POTUS and his party despicable. They aren't the same.
I gave you some good advice. Start doing the research many Americans have already done. But don't come on a Hub blabbing away about hatred. This is our nation and we will voice our opinions about it and the people who think they can run it.
Obama thinks he can but he isn't qualified in the least to run a mom and pop grocery. I let facts speak for themselves and if you think facts are hatred, then you have the problem, not me.
frog-
if you arent spewing hatred and hateful words then that wasnt directed at you. there are others who also commented on your hub and asked questions of me. i believe a lot of these comments were addressed to smcopywrite and not the frog prince.
i dont have any confusion and thanks but no thanks for the advice. there is hatred in this world for Obama and they do have the freedom of speech here as well as other places. dont fool yourself into thinking a lot of these comments were anything else. i know the difference between hatred and facts. i believe i referred to your tirades.
you still never answered the question i did ask of you and anyone else. what are your answers for the ills of our society today? how have you been personally affected? dont make it personal against Obama, keep it "factual". dont make it about opinions, make it about knowledge. you or anyone else that doesnt have any "hatred" for obama i am sure will comment.
thanks again -
smcopywrite - Lets reach an understanding about Hubs. I let people comment as long as they stay generally on topic. You veered off quite a bit if you go back up and read your very own comments.
I suggest that, even though this is a bit satiric, what is presented here are facts, and nothing but. Refute what is here with facts, not your own personal opinion about Obama.
I read all the comments and I also moderate my own Hubs. That allows me a certain amount of discretion and I will exercise that discretion. Many of the users commented specifically to what you said with facts, history and reason. If that upsets you then I am sorry for you, not me or them but you.
This Hub has nothing to do with the ills of society. That's where you veered off. I won't bother to answer such questions because they aren't relevant to the question at hand.
Read the Hub again and I'm sure you might gain some insight about what I am talking about.
The Frog
the hub was about obama using an alias. the first comments were spews about obama being a terrible president, muslim, etc. i didnt recall religion being mentioned as a fact of your hub or did i miss something? my first comment was totally on point and addressed the contents of your hub and paid you a compliment.
i understand you are a moderator and have continually thanked you graciously for allowing me to comment on your hub. my first comment recognized a disrespect that i identified to the office of the president and unfortunately it snowballed from there.
i answered questions that hubbers asked me directly and concerns they addressed to me. unfortunately, they didnt ask me about your hub.
my answers to them also included a question that you still have failed to answer or admit you cant answer. your comments directed to me didnt touch on your hub either if i am correct.did i miss something or was the NATO World Peace Summit somewhere in your hub about Harrison J Bounel as addressed by another comment left on the hub? i believe one comment mentioned the manifest of evil? did i miss that paragraph also? i believe that you also mentioned the Armed Forces in one of your comments. was that related to Harrison?
You cant have it both ways Frog.
I did read your hub and disagreed with the opinion you formed from the information. I believe we should agree to disagree at this point. You certainly dont have to answer any questions you dont want to. I wonder why that is? If you have facts to support your position, why would that be an issue?
once again i thank you for the opportunity to respond to your comment
@ The Frog. smcopywrite drak too much of the kool ade. There is no turning back after one is that far gone. Obama IS his alias. Look at the first letter of that name. What is it? Having trouble with that? It's a ZERO! That totals up the progress he has made in the last 29 months, unless you count spending three trillion dollars he didn't have. He needs to husle to catch up to Pelosi-galore. From 2007 to now she is responsibile for over $5.5 trillion in debt. But he still has 19 months to go. Oh, a Republican Congress has him hamstrung. Guess he'll have to do it the Chicago way.
smcopywrite: You've asked a number of questions. In order to keep it simple and concise (relatively), I'll respond to just one: "How have you been personally affected?"
Here's the answer, i.e. how I have been personally affected: The election of Barack H. Obama in 2008 first prevented me from starting a small business and, a few months later, cost me an $80,000 per year job...followed ten months after that by the loss of a $242,000 house at foreclosure.
How (I can hear you asking) could that be? Specific facts, please! Here they are:
1. Long before it Election Day, Obama's antipathy toward the engergy industry (coal, gas, oil, etc.) was well known. In fact, he was inordinately proud of his pro-"green", anti-"usual" approach.
2. About two months prior to the election, I had decided to buy my own water hauling truck. This would have allowed me to move from "company driver" to "owner operator", doing the same job for my service company employer, hauling water to the gas drilling rigs in western Colorado during that area's drilling boom. Such a move would have tripled my gross and doubled my net.
3. A suitable truck and available financing were found. However, the deal never quite finalized. Investors in the lending company were very nervous about Obama, and as it became clear he was going to win, they decided to hold off on making any new loans until Election Day.
4. The day after the election, that lender closed its doors. Forever.
5. No one else (that I or the truck broker could find, anyway) would sign on to finance the truck. So...no new business. But I still had my job, and that was good.
6. Until around the day Obama was inaugurated. Our bosses called us all in, explained that with the new President having nominated known energy-hater Ken Salazar for Sec. of Interior, sheer fear was the order of the day. Drilling companies were stacking their rigs. We were losing more and more work--nobody was drilling. So, they weren't laying us off, but they were cutting our hours. I personally lost 12 hours per week of pure overtime at $34.50 hours per week. Boom!
7. By mid-February, I'd crunched the numbers every which way and turned a personally important land purchase (where we'd planned to one day build our retirement home) back to the seller. But with a boom town house payment and a disabled wife whose medical costs came entirely out of my pocket (and don't get me started on Obamacare; I don't want that either), it was not going to be enough.
8. So we had to bail, get out of Colorado before we lacked the coin to rent a U-Haul. The house (and payment) had to be abandoned if we wanted to eat, let alone buy a few key meds for my wife every month. We settled on bare land in southern Arizona, dropping the earlier house payment (just under $2,000) to a land payment only (just over $500).
In time, I built us a home with my own two hands. We've not yet come up with the funds for flush toilets, hot water, or showers (except outside, direct from the storage tank), but we're surviving just fine.
Detailed and factual enough for ya?
Hello again smcopywrite,
I will address your specific points; I am not disappointed that you didn't address my extremely detailed points, as I know facts scare liberals.
You mention hate based on ignorance. I will admit that there is some loathing here that could be interpreted as hatred. How can I not hate someone that wants to be my dictator? But what ignorance? I provided a legion of documentation to establish the reason for my hatred of this man. But you provided no agreement or rebuttal on any specific point. Either you are the ignorant one, or you know (deep down) that I am right. If I am not correct on this point, prove it by rebutting my specific points one-by-one in the same level of detail I provided.
I addressed the $400 million handed to Alaska. I'll repeat it again for you. Palin DID originally ask for the $400 million. Alaska later decided not to build the bridge. She requested that the appropriation be cancelled. The House sent her the money anyway. Why they did this I can't tell you, but they did. Palin did nothing wrong. The House did.
I missed your question about why there is so much ill will in this country, but my answer is that Obama is intentionally creating it. He wants to create class and race chaos, just in case his poll numbers are weak in 2012. Look at all the citations I provided about gutting posse comitatus and the Second Amendment, trying to illegally control conservative free speech (Disclose Bill, Fairness Doctrine), and add more chaos by failing to prosecute "favored criminals" (remember the big three voter intimidation cases that were never even investigated?) so they feel free to insurrect. Think about how all this intersects. Obama knows high unemployment may kill him at the polls. Make the cons mad as hell by gutting posse comitatus, the Second Amendment, and conservative free speech, and make the radical left feel free to vent their hatred with no fear of prosecution. IF OBAMA IS CONVINCED HE WILL LOSE THE ELECTION, THE CLASS WARFARE HE IS INSTIGATING GIVES HIM A PRETEXT TO DECLARE MARSHAL LAW, SUSPEND THE ELECTION, AND INSTALL HIMSELF AS DICTATOR INDEFINITELY.
Obama is a snake. He's done nothing that so far has impacted my life personally, yet. He's WAY to clever for that. Look at the HC Act. It's really onerous provisions on providers and patients don't start kicking in until about 2014, AFTER the 2012 election (so anger over the HC Act has minimal impact on his reelection odds). The Governor's Conference Executive Order, a blatant stab at posse comitatus, merely mandated that ten chosen governors draft a plan for (illegal) use of the military on US soil as Obama's personal police force, BUT THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED ONLY IF HE SIGNS A SUPPLEMENTAL EXECUTIVE ORDER AT A LATER DATE (i.e., if he wants to create class warfare to declare marshal law and suspend elections if his polls are weak). See the pattern? He's "timing" the impact of his policies to ensconce himself on a monarch's throne.
I'm just amazed you can say I'm attacking the man and not his policies. What about the litany of blatant legal abuses I documented? How can you imply that I am making an ad hominem attack? Did you even read my detailed post? You certainly have not responded to it.
What "great things" has he done in office? I can't think of a single one. Can you name even one?
What is "narrow minded" about abhoring Obama's shredding of our Constitution, being enraged by Obama's hyper-profligate spending, and being angry about never ending currency debauchement by his out-of-control Federal Reserve Chairman (who Obama can control, if he chooses to)?
When did I EVER bring up Obama's race? Please explain why I support and admire many minority and female patriots, have contributed to their campaigns, and performed phone banking for them? Please explain why my favorite choice for the next POTUS is female (Rep. Bachmann)? Please explain why two of my favorite governors are minorities (Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal)? Please explain why I support minority freshmen like Allen West? You are implying that just because I deplore Obama's evil policies, I am a bigot. My own Senators and Representative from Vermont are all white males - I absolutely can't stand any of them. So I must hate white males, including myself.
Please tell me what slander I committed? I put myself on the line, with VERY detailed information regarding alleged illegalities committed by Obama. But you refuse to put yourself on the line with a DETAILED POINT BY POINT REBUTTAL. FOR YOU, IT'S OK TO JUST CALL ME A LIAR, AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. If my points about Obama are correct, YOU ARE SLANDERING ME. But how can we know; you are scared to address any of the points.
I do form my own opinions. I couldn't care less what Gingrich says. Your statement really shows how ignorant you are. Gingrich, at heart a conservative, is whoring himself to the middle to pump up his voting base. How you could use him as an example of conservatism is beyond me. You create alot of threads about writing, but you don't even follow the advice you give to others. What about all the times you talk about providing facts and data, double checking them, making sure they're on point and accurate, etc.? Why aren't you doing that here? All you're doing is attacking ME, not attacking my SPECIFIC ALLEGATIONS AGAINST OBAMA.
Let's stop attacking each other, and start to address the real question: is Obama an ethical president, or is Obama a filthy criminal? I say the latter, and I provided VERY specific evidence. Unless you are just too chicken or lazy, go back to my post with the specific allegations, and provide DETAILED RATIONAL UNEMOTIONAL COMMENTARY REBUTTING OR AGREEING ON A POINT BY POINT BASIS. I am so sick of liberals telling me I am wrong, but refusing to tell me WHY, except in emotional generalities. This time, I want real facts, data, and logic, like I provided to you. You make yourself out to be a writing expert, but you're acting like a hollow shell. Let's see if you got any substance.
Stu
Ghost,
That's quite a story. I heard a shorter version in another hub. Sadly, alot of people have been badly affected by Obama's policies on energy (hammering lease sales and withholding drilling permits) and credit (making the economy so shaky by loose fiscal and monetary policies that creditors fear inflation will wipe out their asset values if they lend long at fixed rates). Energy and credit are two of the most critical parts of the economy, and Obama is strangling both of them for no logical reason. Ultimately, this could hammer GNP (less output and jobs). Where's Uncle Jed when you need him ("someday I gotta sit down and have a long talk with that boy")?
Stu
smcopywrite - Now you have some more very specific answers to your questions. What I saw as the writer of this Hub were some generalized statements and questions posed by you. Stu in particular got very specific with you and as he pointed out you remained silent and kept up in the "hatred, ignorant" vein. I can tell you that I know some of these people outside of this forum and they aren't full of hate and definitely not ignorant by any means.
As a writer, I also read. I read a lot smcopywrite. As I stated to you, I did an enormous amount of research on Obama. Much is hidden still. Other parts of his past you have to do some digging for. When I provided links to people who accused me of lying, they came back with "lies, lies, lies" about things they just read and verified. Or maybe they didn't bother to click the link and read it for themselves. I stopped providing links because they didn't want to know the truth.
That persists with some people today. They are so blinded by partisan loyalty that it amazes me. That's nonsense. This President, by all the excessive spending he has done in two short years and wants to continue to do, has driven the nation to the brink of economic chaos.
He continually wages class warfare. That's what community organizers do, not Presidents of the US. As one very wise man said early on, "Watch what Obama does and not what he says." I've been watching. Have you?
I have been personally affected the past two years as I am a small business owner. I could go into specific details but that isn't necessary. I have had to do things, fire people and make adjustments as the uncertainty surrounding our nation's economy gets worse, rather than improves.
Open your mind a bit and read some of the comments and verify the facts presented. That may help you to understand why some people loathe Obama. Some people loathed Bush. So what? He's now history and we have to deal with our present situation.
The "facts" are very damning. If we don't start separating truth from fiction we will never pull ourselves out of this hole we are in. Up and useful, Frog.
Oh Frog,
It is truly heartbreaking to read the story of Ghost32, as I know his story all too well with a few people in my life I love very much. I am praying for the day when this country is "right" and I am so grateful that you are sharing information with me (as much as I don't want to hear some of it). I just may need to explore this FB a little... I vote this and YOU, UP and UA, mar.
Facts to libs are like soap to hippies and garlic to vampires - SCW has his opinions I am ok with that I have mine- Frog has his Stu has his....unfortunately the facts only support one view-The person dodging the facts is usually on the wrong side of thingsThe one shifting the arguement is the one dodging the facts...they have already been laid down countless times...the sheer fact is as mark Levin likes to say "Liberalism is a mental illness", the Huff Post, CBS, NBC, ABC,many many others should be quarantined, before they infect tOO many others....SCW will not change until he has a life changing experience or something.... Either way its not going to matter- he will dodge, bob-weave, misdirect and run from truth while expounding his own version of it ... there are few cures to liberalism
TH
mar - The truth shall set you free.
tom - I have a graphic about the cure but you can't post pics here in the comments block. I'll send it to you.
Frog,
Is the inverse true? If so, we could put Oblabber in jail. :)
Stu
Stu - Not sure. It took about 30 minutes for Harrison (Peggy) to approve my friends request on FB. She has a host of friends!
Hi Frog,
You're not following me. Inverse of "The truth shall set you free" is "Lies will make you not free".
Stu
How Obama affected me:
I had a nice little gig in the gulf flying robot submarines around installing pipelines, and doing environmental clean-up for companies like Chevron, BP and Petro-bras. When the drilling shut down so did several thousand offshore jobs. I'll be transparent here, I was knocking down around 48k take home and 68K when you toss in what the employer considered benefits etc.
We had a home we lived in for 21 years, borrowed against it and built another house that actually gave our teenage kids a room of their own instead of a shared room. Within 16 months we lost the original home, which was suddenly horribly upside down, and couldn't be rented fast enough even being a few blocks from the college - not to mention the home we are in and barely hanging on to is also horribly upside down, and thanks to the no-drilling policy I have been laid off since December.
Furthermore, those drilling rigs like the Deepwater Horizen cost over a million dollars a day to operate. When they shut down Gulf-drilling the oil companies detached from the anchors and sailed off to Africa, India, China and South America where they can just keep on drilling. It takes several weeks to sail those rigs that far. They are not going to pick up and come back and bring the jobs back, just because Obama says - ok you guys can drill now. The economic impact in the South alone is staggering, and many of the pilots such as myself live all over the country and fly to work. That's an average of $12,000 less a year per person spent on flights alone. Add to that hotels, meals etc, that is a tremendous loss to the Southern economy too.
Also, I have no health insurance anymore with a dependent with chronic asthma and if I don't get new insurance soon, we wont be able to insure that child anymore because of the way the policies are written.
I could go on and on with a lot of commentary in other areas, but the point has been made. Obama's policies certainly are not enriching us with wealth and prosperity, let alone just a way to make ends meet. If you folks that want all these social programs were required to be the one's to pay for them first - then we'd see how long your undying support for helping the less fortunate lasts. I truly admire people who help others, I really do and it's so much more sincere when you do it with your own wallet. However, you're happy as hell to reach into my pocket and take what you need. I like what Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism if great, until you run out of other people's money." Well guess what... I'm out of money and as far as I can tell, so is most everyone else.
- Harlan
Stu - Lies will make you a slave, especially when confronted with the truth and you want to keep your blinders on. I got it BTW. My comment was about Harrison. She seems like a very nice Lady without the blinders.
Harlan - There are thousands of "how this has effected me" stories in the Naked City. I have compassion for the victims of Obamanomics.
harlan- Frog,
It has been told to me that had I had my aortic aneuyrism,under obamacare- The cost would have been to prohibitive to complete the operation- the insurance co accidentally-or not sent me a bill for the operation and the first two days/operations- cost -
894k.. then I was in the hospital in critical care for 3 weeks- then in hospital-rehab/hospital care for another 3 months-... So I'd have to say-I am at least the million dollar man.. under obamacare... I'd be the 6 feet under man so... I guess I have an issue with this new form of healthcare. thankfully i died before he had a chance to input it.
TH
Dear smcopywrite, let me put this in terms I know you will understand. For this to be effective, simply repeat to yourself for every statement you direct to me.
"I know you are, but what am I?"
Just remember, as long as you look down your nose at me, all you're going to see is ass.
Hey! My headache suddenly disappeared! LOL
GS - Too much stress can bring on a hummer of a migraine.
I know I'm feeling better. Thanks GS.
smcopywrite,
As predicted, I see you are hiding under a rock. I was thinking we could take things one at a time.
You originally said "obama is not a socialist."
My response was "A socialist, by definition, is someone who believes in strict top-down dictatorship, and believes that private groups, such as businesses, must comport their activities to the furtherment of national goals. Obama has stated publicly that he will not enforce laws he does not like, such as DOMA. Obama is not enforcing our immigration laws, and is in fact suing states that are enforcing them via new state laws. During his campaign, he rightly criticized the Patriot Act as a violation of the Bill of Rights. Instead of trying to get it repealed, he has extended it. Obama uses "Czars" to do end runs around Congress, cheating Congress of its constitionally guaranteed power to promulgate legislation via illegal executive branch usurpation of Congressional authority. Obama has pressured courts to drop valid deportation cases, even though he has no standing in these matters. Obama has illegally taken over control of the health insurance industry via the federal HC Act (violation of enumerated powers, Senate cloture rules, and House authority over funding decisions) to further his own ideological goals."
Your rebuttal please.
Thank you, Stu
Stu, Frog
"rules RULES Obama dont need no stinkin rules" he is the first socialist president, amung other firsts.... islamic, teleprompter,the list goes on
Ground:
I can only imagine how you and FRog would react to a hubber like Warren Curtis. . .
We'd eat him for lunch. Stay on topic. That's best. I don't give a rat's butt about Warren Curtis. If he can't remain on topic, he'll be gone just like you. You still haven't had that sink in,have you?
Jim, looks like smcopywrite ran for cover, just as I predicted. Stu
Stu - I'm not sure what Warren Curtis has to do with Harrison J. Bounel. Maybe he's a FB friend of Harrison's. Like GS and I are supposed to be shaking in our boots over some left wing loon.
The Frog
Yeah, I never heard of Warren Curtis either. I'll take some Xanax and try to calm down. :)
Stu
Stu - He might be Oblabber's Blogging Czar so be on the look out.
May have to upgrade to Demerol.
Stu - You are UPSET!!! YIKES!
Not any more. That pharmacy really sells some good s**t. :)
Stu - TPC has his shorts in his crack because I delete his off topic comments. While we're discussing one thing he wants to discuss something not even closely related. Now he wants to bring in his Tonto. I've never heard of the guy but if he comes on and goes off topic I can deal with that too. The prosecution rests.
TheGroundsquirrel 11 months ago
Gaming the tax paying citizens of The United States of America, so easy a cave man could do it . . . . oh wait, a cave man is doing it! LOL